Dumpy Doris, I agree with Emily Rose - I love the movie Dogma even though the liberally sprinkled 'f'-word is, to me, a total lack of information - like blank spots. Just there for shock effect, but adding nothing to the message. It's actually not anti-religion or even anti-Christian, it just tackles some of the . . . well, dogma of some Christian denominations. Makes you think about it.

I agree that religion is very important to many people and a great comfort, and that is wonderful. And anyone who needs to believe in something absolute which is not to be questioned shouldn't (and wouldn't, I'm sure) watch a movie like Dogma. But for others, it makes some interesting points and Alan is very funny - 'Or you'll do what? Hit me with a . . . fffish?'

*SPOILER ALERT*

I love God at the end when she, after putting everything right again, goes off to smell flowers and do handstands! A joyful diety!

Dumpy Doris - Your comments about Dogma tweaked my curiousity.

Things have been awfully slow on the AR front since Berlin, haven't they. Sigh...wonder what he did to celebrate his birthday?

Hey everyone!  Coming out of lurker mode briefly to let you all know I've posted a new novel excerpt in my blog.  It's a short one.  Enjoy!  And Claudia, thank you so much for putting my blog on the home page!  That is so cool!  Talk to you gals soon!

http://blog.myspace.com/whogirl17

The first time I saw "Dogma" I only watched it a few minutes. Religious humor makes me feel nervous. Some people find much needed comfort in their religion. I think they are fortunate.

 But, I still can't watch "Dogma",  silly me.

Claudia, you'lll get an email with attachment from me , another account, I sent you some ralph fiennes pics from Vanity Fair (Italy)

Catsplay, of course not! It was so hilarious!

Hikity,

No, MY apologies, I honestly did not realize that was you who had written the commentator because it was mentioned with a different name, Heike.  No problem!  I as well hope I did not offend you!! 

I was the one who wrote to the commentator originally.  When he/she asked for other states/countries/groups that were supporting a play, I couldn't resist!

Moro, I had such a good laugh about the reporter's mentioning us "hens" that I thought I should at least tell him that we are NOT a bunch of stupid hens, grin... . After I read about the winner of the Affiliate Theatre, however, I switched my PC off - angry as I was, pfffffffffffff, and so I missed his commentary. NOW I understand Peekabooh's comment on the GB, too, blond moment. I hope I did NOT offend anyone here - esp. Catsplay - to have been so "brazen" to explain the hens. That's my *humour" (as the Renaissance would comment on it) - first act then think (yeah, in spite of my age - sometimes it just came over me).

BTW, who wrote him in the first place about the hens?

Am Rosenmontag bin ich geboren, am Rosenmontag zu Mainz am Rhein - I am singing today while only  watching all the carnival processions in Mainz, Cologne (Köln) and Düsseldorf. Stupid me I decided NOT to attend it in Cologne due to the weather and papers to write  

A great day to everybody 

Claudia~ It's going on very nice actually Cake, movie and McDonalds (it became my first choice of fast food after i watch one of the snow cake clip!) it's a very nice day... Very relax and just... nice..

Marlina, what a cute idea! How did the party go?

Just a quick note.  My grandbabies are visiting this weekend so I will be away from the computer quite a lot.  I'll see yall when I get back!

*waving back* Hi Moro!

Yeah, but folks I gotta tell you, the bakery sorta draw AR's nose wrongly... It should be down longer (I heart to smack the bakers head with a rolling pan! How dare she make fun of TEH NOSE!)

Christina~ Geez! You make me can't wait to see them in this movie!

WHA???? Marlina had a birthday cak for AR? I`m popping in to see it then! I HAVE an account!

(Bad, BAD Moro! )

Chris,

I have no idea about the reliability of that source.  Since it's still in final funding, I am not holding my breath, for now.

Marlina,

I meant to tell you how much I liked your bday cake for AR, but I can't figure out how to comment on your blog as I don't have an account there!

Marlina - Me too me too! There was something in her relationship with Kevin Klin that made me think she and AR would make a great pair on screen. And Southern France, what a spectacular location for a film! Makes me think of "French Kiss".  

HAPPY BIRTHDAY SNIV!!!

Chris~ I too had wondered a couple of times what if Kristin Scott Thomas do a movie with Alan since i watched her in A Life as A House.

CatsPlay, TELL me that`s a reliable source! I wanted to see Kristin Scott Thomas and AR play together since FOREVER! And the plot sounds interesting too! Must find the book now!

Hikity - Take care now and Have a great time! And get some rest!

Uuuhgg, tired...

Dee, what a bum - don't know whether I could resist...

Catsplay - thanks for your link concerning "The Villa Golitsyn". I haven't read the book yet. The plot sounds interesting, although the novel is from 1981 and hopefully not "out". Anyway, I found a nice entry from the author himself about his way of life at that time:

http://www.slate.com/id/2062190/entry/2062191/

and if it becomes true we should meet with our French friends dans le Midi (wonderful region). Je viens

Hugs

tired Hikity

Thank you so much, Bluebeatbabe!  Polikoff's "Friends and Crocodiles" is to air this Saturday on BBC-A and I saw an advert the other night saying "Gideon's Daughter" will be coming soon!  Can't wait to see both.  I really like Poliakoff's work...and to have one of my favorite Brits in it...just makes it even more exciting!

Yes, I did get your privage message but I couldn't find an email address to respond.  I've posted my email if you would like to talk about it.   

Happy birthday to Sniv!  Have an AR kind of day!!

Thanks for the clip, Laura.  They only showed AR a couple times.   

Catstale/P, I can assure you that MrsDoyle'sCat is not who you accuse her to be.  This board is not designed for accusations and/or ugliness so please be careful what you post.

Catstale, I fear you must be be confused. I have never posted here or anywhere else as lurking/zzzz or any other pseudonym other than MrsDoylesCat here and my real name on other boards.

Just clarifying the matter not wishing any further debate.

I wanted to say a little hello to everyone. I've been keeping busy lately, haven't even had much time for lurking.

I'm getting excited for my trip to London in mid-March.  I was sad to hear the NY MNiRC news. But from a very selfish perspective, I might actually be in London the same time as teh Man.  I NEVER thought that would happen.

Take care, and I will try to check in more often. ~Julie

Bluebeatbabe , thank you

what is a goatee?

http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=28SEV7TDHY2352JCHW4KF8R3I0

here a video with a mix from Berlinale, I didn't make it, coming soon tv aired it: there are all the guests there

thank you for the answer Claudia.

About taking photos , here in Italy is not allowed . We can't take photos anywhere: musem, art gallery, church and many other artistic places, they put a sign on the door with NO CAMERA allowed. Mostly here is to sell you the books with images and photos but as Chris said, some places are also to save the art works from flash. I guess every place has it's own policy about it so we find many differences

For me it's easy to think that everywhere is the same way until I read from others that comparing shows differences

it's cool to learn how different many things can be, thank you all for sharing your experiences

I really don`t want to step on anybody`s toe here, I just want to share my opinion on the museum matter. In most art galleries or museums taking photos is forbidden. Imagine they could lose visitors if pictures would be floating around the web. Other museums are simply concerned about flashes damaging the quality of a picture. It may seem impossible but trust me, they are very concerned about the humidity in the air and things like that. So some art galleries or museums allow you to take pictures but without using flash. And some have already taken care of these possible problems and allow you to take pictures of any kind. Every gallery has its own policy but in most cases, it`s true that it`s forbidden. So let`s not get carried away here, I`m sure everyone just spoke from their own experience.

Sounds like I just need to be patient on the gallery pix. No problem...I've got tons of stuff I still haven't got on exhibit yet. I'll just keep an eye open for more info later. Thanks everyone.

So...AR is back in London. Sigh...I was planning on going to NYC and meet up with CatsPlay. Disappointing, but if the problem is security I certainly wouldn't want him in harm's way. Wonder if AR is taking a break until HP starts filming. Does anyone think he might appear at the Samuel Beckett Festival?

No worries Claudia!

MrsDoyle'sCat, I didn't mean to imply that you were critisizing Meeressternchen.  I'm sorry if it sounded that way.

I certainly wasn't criticising Meeessternchen for taking the photo, just replying to Dee's request for a better photo. I would try a sneaky phone photo if I was there but I'm sure whipping out the old SLR would get you in big trouble.

Uh ohhh!  We've been doing so well.  Let's try to keep it nice. 

Well, I have no idea whether the art galleries and museums allow photography or not but I feel very confident that had there been a no photography sign, Meeessternchen would not have taken the photo OR if there is a sign, I'm sure she wouldn't have taken a chance by sharing it. 

Dear Dog,

I did not mention museums, I was talking about art galleries and every one I have been in says "No Photos"

Yours

Mrs DoylesCat

(who wasn't aware she had said that much anyway)

Dear Mrs. Doyle's Cat,

You have no idea what you're talking about, as usual. You can take photographs in British museums, except in those galleries and exhibits where signs are posted forbidding it.

*eyes coming up from the bum*  Great update, Dee!  LOL

Laura, that definitely IS Imogen Stubbs but that definitely ISN'T AR.  Its amazing how wrong some of these "professionals" can be.  If they would just check their facts out before publishing, they would save a lot of face. 

Dee, it's highly illegal to take photos in art galleries in London!! You'd certainly be asked to leave or delete the pic I think. I am sure the picture will turn up on the artist's site after the exhibition.

On the GB Meeressternchen sweetly posted a mobile photo of the ARt nabbed at the nationally gallery. It's a bit distorted and hard to get a good feel of it. Is it "legal" to take photos there? I really want a good clear shot of the entire work for my website, but certainly wouldn't want to get anyone in trouble. If they won't toss the photographer in jail (is that the right word in London?), if someone goes again, would you mind sharing the pix and any write up? Please!

In thanks, feel free to check out the new exhibits on my Famous ARt site. You don't have to roam the whole site just to see the new stuff. Just click the "new exhibits" link on the right just under the banner. http://www.famousartbydee.com "Adam and Eve" Art Deco 1932 By Tamara de Lempicka

this doesn't seem AR but the details on the pic say so  http://search.empics.co.uk/urn/3122694.html 

hikity, another vanilla lover? I am one myself, I tried Body shop's products with this smell and even more and different! good taste your daughter

Nahima, what are chakras??

I love the Body Shop, esp. the Shea Butter Body Cream - and my daugher loves everything with vanilla

Catsplay, I know it sounds lame - I am really very sorry for you all about MNiRC not coming to the US in the near future, but I back Claudia's comments on it. In addtion, IMHO, it's too risky at the moment - too many political opponents

Have you all seen that wonderful birthday video from Daydreamer? WOW

Peekabooh, I don't need to see the caricature my self in order to believe you. I am sure I won't like it either - I trust your opinion.

I don't think AR has been under the knife either. But I did comment on the Cerebral Hen Network that IMHO he's had something done to his skin. (it's okay, Catsplay - you don't have to hold your tongue!) He was positively glowing in Berlin!

Why do I think that? I have an obsession *cough* I mean 'habit' of pulling up high resolution photos of AR in Photoshop and examining him inch by lovely inch (a tough job, but someone has to do it!). So, I couldn't help comparing the Berlin photos to other shots taken within the last couple of years.

Please do not read if you prefer not to think or AR as a mere mortal or if scrutinizing his appearance makes you uncomfortable.

1) His pores look much smaller; skin tone smoother and more even; a healthy glow. I'm going through a series of micro abrasion treatments and have noticed the same thing with my own skin. IMHO, AR has had some similar treatment.

2) His jaw line and neck looked tighter and smoother. It was obvious that AR had lost weight, but at his age that would not tighten those areas. My dermatologist is touting a treatment he says "the stars" love. It's non-invasive and lifts the skin and muscles by tightening the collagen underneath with radio-frequency. He says the results are astounding. IMHO, AR has had something similar.

And if he has, I think it's great! AR makes his living with that lovely and timeless face, and I'm sure years of film/stage makeup, bright lights, difficult locations and stress is hard on his skin. There's nothing wrong with making your skin as healthy as possible!

Oh, that makes him filming his Order of The Phoenix scenes in April more understandable. I thought it was weird that he wouldnt be with the play ( but he wanst there all last year when it first opened up in London either, filming Snowcake). Well, for those of you who were intersted in going, my condolences and dont you fret, a good man is hard to keep down and so is a good play, it will have its due.

Please Don't Kill the Messenger....

I have some disappointing news to report this morning about the possibility of My Name is Rachel Corrie coming to New York.  Claudia and I agreed that I should hold this news until after the AR birthday festivities as to not bring down the mood.

Over the past three weeks, I have been in contact with the New York Theater Workshop.  I had established contact with them via email, and throughout those conversations they had indicated that nothing was 'definite', but that announcment was to be forthcoming this week.  I had also been calling them once per week just as a double check, and each time I called, they said nothing was 'definite', but early last week they gave a strong indication that an 'announcment' was coming late last week, or this week.

Through my conversations with them, it was apparent that they are an extremely small theater.  I had inquired about the best way to obtain tickets for opening night, and they explained that they don't ever sell tickets to opening night, nor do they make them available to their 'members'.  They indicated the theater controlled and distributed opening night tickets (I assume to VIPS, reviewers, or whomever). 

NYTW sells their tickets via Telecharge, so I was also checking the Telecharge site on a daily basis.  Yesterday, I was elated to find that a full listing for MNiRC, with preview and play run dates, ticket information, as well as info on post-talk discussions with post-performance discussions after every show, (woot!)  featuring a variety  of artists, journalists, and cultural commentators (details were not provided). I then called New York Theater Workshop to inquire about these post-talk discussions and to discuss the best method for obtaining tickets.

To my surprise, they indicated that they had indefinitely postponed the production, and that the information should not have appeared on Telecharge.  Needless to say it was an awkward conversation and the gentleman on the phone sounded somewhat flabbergasted.   When I tried to press him a bit more, the phone person indicated it would probably be a year or more before the production would be reconsidered.

At that point, I emailed my contact (who is the Artistic Director), seeking a definitive answer and any explanation that could be provided.  His response was,

"We have postponed the production indefinitely.  We were unable to make it happen in the very tight time frame that emerged.  It may be reappearing in London."

I thanked him for the info, and asked if he knew if the play was in dicsussion with any other theaters in NYC, or if things were a lost cause at this point.  His response was as follows,

"I really don’t know.  I think it is unlikely for a NY production in the next few months.  London seems more possible."

Needless to say I was extremely disappointed, as I'm sure many of you are.  Again, maybe some miracle will occur, but I am just reporting to you the information, which seems pretty credible to me at this point.  Realizing the situation, in the midst of things yesterday I did screencap all of the pages from Telecharge, for posterity sake, I guess.  The information was removed from Telecharge yesterday, within a few hours of my initial conversation with them.  You can view them here:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/catsplay/mnirc1.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/catsplay/mnirc2.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/catsplay/mnirc3.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/catsplay/mnirc4.jpg

If anyone knows or finds out anything different on this subject, or about another run in London, I am sure that everyone here would be very grateful to hear about it.

The frustrating thing is that it was obviously SO CLOSE (info posted and ready to go on Telecharge, etc).  Timing (OOTP?).  Political?  It's such a shame.

Chris,

I didn't manage to access those sites

Thank you for thinking of me, I have no hurry

I am disappointed by italian magazines that always spend so many pages on festivals and this time they didn't write a line, only pages about George Clooney

Hey Angie, glad to have you in here!

And Frances, don`t worry about the time zone problem, no problem!  

Sending spring thoughts to everyone around!

Laura, I have to copy a few pages from the CL script before I send it to you. And yes, I KNOW you`ll say it`s ok, I just didn`t wantd you to think I have forgotten about it. Did you manage to find a way to acces those sites you were asking about yesterday?

Welcome Everyone New!

Didn't mean to slight anyone!

Welcome, Angie!

And don't worry about the time differences - everyone just posts whenever they can.

3x, Chris.  Just for being the screening debut of HIM, i would love that film. Not for that, i still love it~ the setting, the stories and the cast...

It seem that we have a big time difference, where are u? but, i think it will be ok.

A girl, not a MAN!  Jeesh, Closet Land on the brain!

Chris,

Roger.  Wilco.  Over.

However, please do not spend a lot of time researching unless you feel that you will get great enjoyment out of it or something.  I didn't mean for you to have to do that.

See the thing is, the song I have in mind is so perfect (yeah, behind the glass), but it's about a girl, not a woman, which kind of presents a problem for me.  So I'm not sure how I'm going to approach it.

But it's not going to be Teh Sexeh, I don't think.  More like Teh Sad and Beautiful.

Cats, leave me a day for on-field research! I`m not really up to date myself, nor I am a big MTV fan. More of a VH1 fan actually. But I`ll look into it and get back with some suggestions tomorrow. So paparazzi, flash lights, crowds, "behind the glass" sort of things. Mainly male related but women could work also. Check. Begining operation. Will report shortly.

Chris,

Do you have specific songs from those *cough*artists that you can think of?  I haven't watched MTV in like 15 or 20 years....  I'm just toying with an idea.  Nothing firm yet.

THANK YOU, CatsPlay, I knew you`d be up for it! But come on, you`ve got to be jocking, ther are tens or maybe even thousands of videos out there with that sort of thing, from Elton John to Britney Spears*cough*, not that I`m hinting at those stickers from your fridge or anything. No. Not me. I`m not even here!

Oh this is really exciting!

Pssst...I think you just HAVE to include the "7 seconds of pure delight"! ey? ey? *wink*

I am thinking about a new music video.  Can anyone think of some music videos that feature a celebrity (male preferably, but also female as I am looking to snag content) amidst a lot of flashbulbs, photographers, paparazzi, etc?

Thanks in advance for any ideas.

ehehe,funny subject
I don't think he went under the knife: he looks very good but he still looks himself, you know? When someone goes "under the knife" neither his mother can recognize him! 

I guess that after so many trips and so much work he just had a few time to sleep and relax. it makes miracles!!!

Mmmyeah, Cats, better hold that thought!

Under the knife? Oh noooooo! *slap* Bad Chris, bad! Hide all lamps in sight, Dobby`s gonna punish himself now! No, seriously, I am just constantly surprised, that`s all. At the Berlinale he looked unbelievably good so I guess I`m still in shock after that one. Not that that should come as a shocker, mind you! But I was just surprised.  under the knife? No way! The man needs no knife!

I was gonna make a comment involving Dee and microderm abrasion but I will hold my tongue.

Hmm Chris why the suspicious?? OMG!!WTF!!!??!!

You don't think he's gone under the knife dooya???

That, CatsPlay, m`dear is because he is SUSPICIOUSLY GOOD LOOKING nowadays!

Frances, welcome aboard! BTW, I love the name, maybe it`s because I`m such a die-hard fan of The Winter Guest.

Now for our daily schedule...

PS: Claudia, it seems we have a little spam in the HP page. It`s almost spring. You gotta understand them. Mating season.

You know what is so cool?  If you read the birthday blog posts that are flowing in, NO one can believe that AR is 60!  Most of the posters are completely shocked.

Claudia, I just sent you an email you may want to check out. 

Hello everybody,

Just Like everyone new here, the first thing i want to say is "3X A LOT!!!" In a way, this place is HAVEN, as long as for AR fans

It takes me quite a long time to gather the courage to finally say something here.

and obviously the most impotant word to say today is

HAPPY BIRTHDAY MR. RICKMAN !!!

WISH U ALL THE BEST!!!

BTW, takes the cool & cute manner with u as always

CatsPlay, I re-sent the email that seems not getting to you.Do you have another email address where I can write to? I received your emails but you don't receive mine, it seems

I hope mr Rickman is celebrating his birthday the way he desires most, whatever it is .

I guess he's probably working but I hope he can find some quality time for himself!

Happy 60th to AR!!!!  CNN's American Morning had him listed in their "Today's Birthdays" along with Tyne Daily and William Baldwin!  It was quite a nice surprise so early in the morning. 

Thanks Hikity for the heads up about the french article translation not being posted.  We'll get it posted tomorrow after all of today's festivities. 

cute wallpaper Chris!

does anyone have access to photo agency Maxppp.com and Beimages.net?

Just popped in to share a little prezzie, it`s a nice wallpaper I found yesterday on DeviantART (made by firefoxcentral - sorry, I forgot the link) and it`s even a bit A related

May you all have a wonderful day wherever you are!

 Kinda cute, ha? How can you not love the little fellow?

Happy Brithday AlanGosh you just get better with every year,how does he do that!!!!

Today I am celebrating his birthday by going on a live chat and having a massive posse meeting with his fans from all over the world...It is going to be so cool,just hope that with all that Alan Love going on today,that it does not crash the system....

Oh,how I love this man....with the rest of you lot of course..

Hello everybody

I'm soooo sorry I haven't been here for AGES... *blushing* Had a typing job that I worked on after coming home from work but with bleeding fingers I finally finished it now and am back alive!! Yihaaa!!

So I just wanted to say Hi and hope you're all celebrating this wonderful and significant day with lots of organic bananas, chicken and champagne. Hehe.. Anybody sent something over to Obad-- eh, Alan?? I had a fit yesterday and yes I ran to the post office with a silly grin on my face. I still can't believe I did it *lol* Maybe a party in the chat room would be great tonight!? I'll be looking for you, same time as last time. Cheers!!

YAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY ALAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

About shephen fry... i like him and i have most of this  song he sung about Marvin the paranoid android called "reasons to be misrable (his name is marvin) " and love Hugh Laurie as well.

BUT ALAN TAKES THE CAKE

no pun intended

QDU is on TV right now! Love AR's look...but why, why, why does he always have to die?

Does anyone have plans for a big birthday celebration tomorrow?

Here comes another, "are you done with the computer?????"

Emma: "How 'bout a go?"

Alan: "What do you mean 'how 'bout a go'?" 

Remember this?

But, wasn't it funny?!

Questions? Comments?

Yeah, there are some other spoilers in it about a word that Sigourney uses that Alan ends the film with, as he puts sunglasses on his head.  I was pretty sure that hadn't been posted here...

Catsplay and Claudia, the French article was posted in French but not in a translated version, I am quite sure about it.

Nighty night

I think the translation of that French article was already posted, CatsPlay.  I'm not totally sure but I don't have time to check it out. 

As for Poliakoff, he is, IMO, a brilliant film maker.  BBC-A will be airing Friends and Crocodiles this Saturday and Gideon's Daughter (with the fabulous Bill Nighy!) is supposed to be coming soon.  I believe those are Poliakoff's two newest creations. 

I had a chuckle at Frankie being amazed so much their stuff is making its way over here.  LOL

Stephen Fry will take a bit of getting used to but once you see his personality, you might love him.  I was first introduced to him in a little film called Peter's Friends.  The film also has Emma Thompson, Imelda Staunton, Phyllida Law, Hugh Laurie, Ken Branagh, and a host of others.  Rent it if you can--its funny but also a tear jerker. 

SF has also done brilliant comedy.  He did some of the Black Adder shows.  He starred in Jeeves and Wooster (another show he did with Hugh Laurie). 

Alan Rickman getting ready for tomorrow's party and we're all invited right here to celebrate!

Claudia, FYI, there were also 2 other good pieces of info from today's AlanRickmanExperience --

1) about a show on BBC1 coming up about Stephen Poliakoff

2) a translated Snow Cale review from a french website which provides even more details we don't know (spoilers)

I hate to always be posting stuff from other sources, especially since that is a member based list.  So I thought I'd let you know and you can decide if they are OK to post here.

Thanks

Everybody's always mentioning Stephen Fry.  I'm going to have to pay attention and find out who he is.  I think Moro explained him to me once, but it's slipped my mind.

No thanks needed on the links yall.  I am glad to do it. 

Laura, I watched the BAFTAs on BBC-America last night and saw RF numerous times.  Its a shame he didn't win anything...but he was there!  Thanks for looking out for me though.

Stephen Fry was a hoot!

I don't know if anyone has posted this yet and I apologies if they have, but Alan is on the Hello magazine's vote again!!

http://www.hellomagazine.com/vote/mostattractiveman/index.html

Leanne

-x-

Ditto thanks from me Claudia -- you are the greatest - thank you for the link to Rickman247.com!

Might I suggest linking to the Alan Rickman Cerebral Hens Network?   We can supply a logo or button if you'd like.

Me too me too! Although I expect people to be pretty dissapointed when they`ll see almost only non AR related entries back there. I won`t even talk about the extra pressure on my shoulders now. Right when I decided to take a break from it! Hopefully it`ll make a comeback soon!

Cats- Roger, roger.

Hi Claudia - Thanks for the shout-out by linking The World's Lamest LiveJournal for the Easily Amused on your main page! I am honored! -emteee

it's ok CatsPlay

Claudia, I am watching BAFTA recorded tonight, there is Ralph Fiennes, I know you like him.I'm still checking the tape, the show started before my recording.

Chris and Laura,

I got your emails yesterday but have just been lazy and haven't had a chance to respond yet!

Thanks a lot, Catsplay! Delicious pics....esp. the one where he laughs and

BTW: Next time I post here I TRY HARD to spell Perfume in English....sorry for that constant error of interference

Yes i'm joining in the covosation, but i'm not sure  what all this referal to spit and what have you is about ( yes i did read... some posts)

I grow to love alot of alans films, but i get to critical like: his part is to small or he shoudn't have died... well that seems to be the main one but oh well..

Die hard is my fav, it always has been. I like it when its a funny movie, or has elements of hilarity.

In modern history ... yes i'm sad to say school is still in the picture. We are doing the Romonovs  and Rasputin so now i have and excuse to watch alan over and over again and call it studing. And i think Rasputin is one of my favs too, its just so weird and quirky and Ian mcKellin relly looks like the Tsar

Ok SNOW CAKE, i like the sound of that, to me it doesn't sound boreing. But i can't say i'll see it at the movies its not a at - the -movies movie if you know what i mean. BUT I WANT TO SEE IT...

Now you've read my rambles... you can ignor it if you like i just needed to get that out .

I'm not complaining about his spit or his puking, believe me!

By the way, I screencapped the Berlinale photo call and press conf over at my LJ, in case anyone needs a gorgeousness fix.

Catsplay, yes the conversation is gross, ha, ha, but not enough to ruin *my* appetite! <p>Also, what's frustrating for me is when a movie does not list AR as being in it, like I wouldn't have known he was in JK if not for fan sites.<p>Yet another list showed AR as being one of "top ten under-appreciated actors", in Parade Magazine. <p>Figure skating, just wanted to add to the artistic/sport discussion. I never fell dancing, but when someone decides to go out on slippery, hard ice at top speed, jump, spin around in the air, and then land backwards of one leg, all without falling, it sound way too atheletic to me. Over the years, I've heard they may include ballet in the Olymics because although it's artistic, it has alot of "hidden" athleticism. Then we all can be happy, dancing or flying over ice!   or just watching! 

I dunno! Sounds like spaghetti sauce to me! Well - extremely garlic-y spaghetti sauce. . . .

CatsPlay, yes you are right. After he takes a bite of the tomato a big string of drool hangs down, not the most attractive Alan moment but neither is the gag  and spit up after he kisses her with it in his mouth. I read somewhere that he  wasnt acting then, he really did gag. ( who wouldnt with tomatoe and garlic in thier mouth--ewww)

OK, regarding spit, I swear, after he bites the tomato and begins walking towards her, as he is walking, a big string of spit can be seen coming from his mouth.

Am I crazy? (This conversation is gross, but you guys started it).

Dee - That was me. I'm sure he is aware of his affect on his audience . . . that's why he's such a good actor. And normally I can believe he's bad (Hans), so I need to watch CL again.

When I got it, I had borrowed some of AR's movies from the library and was building up my own library. So I was watching a lot of his movies as I bought them. I probably had just watched him in one of his sweeter roles - S&S or TMD - and couldn't get that feeling out. Usually I can watch movies 'innocently', as he so beautifully puts it, but occasionally. . . .

Speaking of guilt - I felt a little guilty feeling attracted to him when he was being so cruel. I don't find cruelty appealing at all in any way, shape, or form, so that was an unusual feeling. I kept thinking 'He's going to see the light. He won't be able to go through with it.' Like when he was going to pull out her toenail. After his semi-breakdown where he finally repeated what she was saying, I was sure he wouldn't be able to do it. But the dirty little devil did it, anyway. At the end I just came away feeling very uncomfortable.

The ending confused me, though. Maybe if I can get the script and read it, I'll be able to understand. It was very strange to me that, after all of that, she just walked out by herself and he went off some other way. Surely, I thought, a prisoner wouldn't be allowed to escort herself to her cell . . . was he just in her mind??? Couldn't be, it seems, since the theme seems to be not only sexual abuse but actual torture.

Chris - maybe someone thought that, in the movie, sweat would create a different feeling. Sweat could be seen as sexier by some than spit. Previous joking aside, I don't generally find either particularly appealing.

Chris, you terrible terrible person   . hee hee

Its funny how the script says its spit and the movie clearly shows it is not spit, that its sweat dripping down, you even see it. Go figure, no different than the HP books differing from the movies.

Alfan, I wouldn`t have thought so either, it`s just that the script says it`s not sweat. Oh dear, how will I forgive myself for putting you to such a horrid chore as watching the film?

CatsPlay, I wrote you another email, I don't know if it arrived. I post here a different email of mine, hoping it will work better

Spit?? hmm, must go look now.

I thought it was sweat that just dripped down to his lip and he blew  the sweat drip off of his lip, i didnt think it was spit.

Ok, on further examination of the movie -- he doesnt spit, it is sweat, it comes down the right side of his nose/face and it drips onto his lips and he blows the sweat bead off his lips.

now off to watch the rest of the movie, damn it. hee hee

I saw a few time ago Ruby Wax at BAFTA...is it already over? I was planning to record it because I so like Ruby Wax , she is so funny!

Dee, just because AR is in there we don't have to like all the movies he did.

If it was not for AR I would have never watched a few movies of him and still it's heavy to see these ones that are not my genre ( am I a bad fan?)

Please don't get mad at me, but I was shocked when I stopped and counted the number of AR movies that I don't really like except for his character! I feel so guilty... Oh dear..."Bad Dobbie, Bad Dobbie"! But, AR is so good that he creates memorable characters even in mediocre films.

SPOILERS:

I watched the DH commentary a long time ago and was amazed at the amount of hidden symbolism -- BUT! IMHO the symbolism was TOO hidden. When you reach the end of a film, everything should suddenly become clear with a big "ah ha!" moment. But in DH the symbolism was so vague that none of it registered until the director pointed it out step by step.

Sorry - Can't remember now who said they couldn't get past AR's sexiness to see him as a bad guy in ClosetLand? Here's an AR quote that mentions that: "Who I am gets in the way of people looking innocently at the parts I play."  So...he seems to be aware that sometimes he is his own worst distraction.

Oh I see my aid came in too late. It`s a good thing Laura sent it to you.

Jan, send me an email and I`ll be able to pass you the DH transcript. As for the CL one, I think CatsPlay has on, perhaps she could help you, she`s much more near you than me or Hikity, whom I got it from. I`d be happy to send you a copy but I think the quality would be quite bad. That`s why I`m sending mine to Laura.

you have email Jan

How can I get a copy of the Dark Harbor and Closet Land scripts?

P-p-pretty Pleeeeze?

why the crying smile?

lol, the dialogue about bananas, I can already imagine it in Red Tango's site, it would fit perfectly! she has so great humor!

You`re welcome Laura.

Right, Jan!

Oh I was just reading the DH transcript Hikity gave me. It`s hilarious! no really, it also has these comments in brakets. Oh dear I just got to the breakfast scene and I couldn`t stop laughing when I read :

"ALAN: I don't want banana.
POLLY: You always have banana!"

Oh come on Alan, stop being such a baby! This cracks me up every time!

Snow Cake to be released in AUTUMN?! Bloody hell! This`ll be one rather empty year!

Chris - Spit, sweat - whatever!  Right, Alfan??? or is it just me?

Chris - My problem with Closet Land was that I couldn't hate him. I did sometimes feel sorry for him. The wonderfulness of himself - He Who Must Be Adored, for Pete's sake! - prevented me from being able to 'buy' him as an abuser. I'm sure that it was most likely because of the mood I was in or maybe I had just watched S&S or TMD. But, as Alfan said, he was delectable in that film! In Die Hard (I hate that type of movie) I believed that if I was in the same room with Hans for any length of time, I'd probably end up dead, but Hans was controlled, even cold. In CL he's supposed to give you mixed feelings, I'm sure. The only problem is, I had too much difficulty seeing the 'bad' part.

I felt sorry for her, certainly, but couldn't stop drooling at him long enough to really see his character, I guess. I would like to read the script - that would probably get me in the right frame of mind. I promise next time I be sure I haven't watched him in any loveable roles right before, too. And maybe if I ate a lemon while I watched it would help the drool problem. . . .  We need a drooly emotie!

Seriously - I would love to read the script. I have read that it is informative. The parts where they come close to showing actual torture - the clapping on her ears, the toenail, and the machine at the end - were very disturbing, as they were meant to be. However, garlic and apple (tomato? I dunno) began to sound pretty tasty delivered by those lips!!!!! Well - I was serious for a second, there. . . .

Alfan - I'll have to watch the commentary on Dark Harbor now! That sounds very interesting. I was bamboozled through the whole movie (as I usually am - clues escape me completely [i.e. The Sixth Sense]) and felt sorry for poor David, thinking that she would cheat on him eventually. When he turned on her I thought 'Where is this coming from?' She seemed basically pretty nice to me. I felt like I'd gotten a slap in the face (I'm sure that was intended). It was only at the end, when they killed her, that I realized it was all a plot to get rid of her from the beginning. But I still missed clues like the stranger knowing how David likes his coffee! I may find a whole new appreciation for the film. Of course, one of the things I like about Alan is that he does give you a slap in the face every now and again. . .keeps you on your toes. . .and then there's that tushie. . .beautiful! What a brave man!

Judas Kiss did have some funny moments in it. I liked it better the second time I saw it, certainly. I just have to fast-forward past the alien lesbian movie part and her in the meat plant - my arms hurt just looking at that. Yuk! I say. IMHO. . . .

See, this is why I love you people, in a matter of minutes, everything gets settled! Hikity you`re a sweetie! I passed on the transcript to Laura. Hope it helps, Laura!

Have a beautiful and peaceful Sunday (evening) everyone!

SLAPChris, I have got it - look into your mail

After all these discussions I am going to watch the three films again this week...

Does anybody here records (TV-card???) the Parfume-Trailer at 20:13 in Pro 7 (8:13 p. m.)???

Chris, please please let me know if you find the playscript of dark harbor! Sweet girl...

Clarification - I liked CL AND JK (eventually). But I watched the commnts on DH too and even soI have to say I was aware of those things since day one. Hoverer my opinion remains the same.

Alfan- Erm.......that was spit in CL not sweat.

Dark Harbor, Judas Kiss and Closet Land Spoilers.

Chris, Jan and anyone else who didn't like Dark Harbor.

I too did not like this movie the first time i watched it, then being the big commentary nut i am i watched the commentary. I was aghast at what all i missed in the first viewing--the looks, the comments, the hidden messages ( like when David comes down from the bedroom the stranger makes him coffee, puts sugar in without even asking David what he likes, and i totally missed the fact that the stranger when reciting his thoughts to her and she is writing it down that it is her own suicide note). I then watched it again and realized what brilliant acting there is in the movie, ok, its not his best movie by far but he is brilliant in it, so is Norman and Polly.

May i suggest watching the commentary while watching the movie, it might help.

And as for Judas Kiss, i again didn't like the movie the first time then i watched it again and i really really like it now, not just the Alan and Emma parts but i like the humor in it too. Like i love Reuben " i think I'm having an epilepsy"---"what" junior says--" you know, epilepsy-a vision"---"you mean an epiphany" junior says.

It took a bit to take use to but i now think that is one of my favorites to watch.

 I also loved Closet Land not only because he is delectable in the movie and he is in every scene but its a good mind bending movie, will or wont he break her. I mean that has one of the most sexiest Alan moments i can think of , when he is leaning over the grill and the sweat drips off of him,,,,,,,,,,,,,yum, and what that man can do with garlic and a tomato. More brilliant acting on his behalf, when he is the other characters, a masterpiece of acting abilities.

Laura, actually it comes out of nowhere to be precise. He basicaly tells her that the years spent together were spent "in a coffin". She somehow seems cold to him now. And suffocating. It`s a pretty weird thing because as a viewer you cannot begin to understand where did it all come from, she seems perfectly nice and caring. And I won`t go further with this because I`ll start REALLY picking on the film! I don`t think I have a transcript around but I`ll look for one.

Jan, you`re picking a fight with me re:Closet Land!  Kidding kidding! Just teasing. Actually me, CatsPlay and a few others were having a chat about it at her LJ. I think reading the script will make it more intersting and belivable, there are many things that were left out (some for good reason, but some were really helpful  in discovering the plot and hidden meanings) and yes, i agree it`s not a pleasant film. But the idea that I found interesting is that you can HATE his character but fel sorry for him at the same time. The way he talks about her as a child (in the script) is quit similar to the way Humbert talks about Lolita in the novel with the same name. It`s fascinating and disgusting at the same time. Just like the film. I think a more experienced director would have done wonders with it.

I`ve heard your press conference didn`t work, so sorry to hear that,. I`d love to help you out but it takes forevr to upload bigger files with my connection. But I`m sure someon hr will help you out!

Come on guys, what do you say, Jan missed the man in action, let`s give her a hand!

Dark Harbor tush..................................................*breathless*

About Dark Harbor, can someone please help me understanding what does AR says when yelling at the wife about their years together?

thank you in advance

Emily Rose - I love that dance, too! But also when he turns to Margaret Thatcher's portrait and says, 'Did you have problems like this . . . of course you did, you saucy minx!'

Dee - In general, I didn't like Judas Kiss except for AR and ET - I love both of them always alone or together. I did like the twist at the end, though, where the girl finally figures out that she had been set up to take the fall.

Alma - I thought it was headphones at first, too. It must just be a trick of the light and shadow.

Chris - Dark Harbor left me with a bad feeling - because of the scene where David is really being nasty to her in the kitchen and because it became obvious to me that he had married her from the beginning to get her island. A total manipulator! But, then, AR never claimed to choose films according to whether they made people comfortable. . .I remember reading an interview where he said something about that (. . .I defy you to find it uninteresting). I only watched it once but I may again someday just to see what my reactions to it would be the second time. And, then, there's his tushie!

I can't say I like Closet Land, either. It's the only film in which I couldn't buy AR in his role. I'll have to try it again, too, to see if I see it differently.

Emily Rose - The PM`s dance in LA gets me every time!  Have you seen the deleted scenes also? Awsome!!  Oh and here`s to Toga! Keep safe, little one!

Judas Kiss SPOILER!

LESBIAN porn scene? I thought that was a guy there! Ups! How oh how will I ever get through this?!

END Judas Kiss SPOILER!

Alba - it`s ok, really, the movie had not-so-good reviews even with him in it so...Personally, I like this kind of quiet, intimate films. But I have to say I wasn`t a Sigourney Weaver fan untill now. It would have probably been a film that I would have rather waited to se on DVD or television. I can hardly see it in a big cinema as it is. But I find the story fascinating and his role really suites him. We`ll just ahve to wait and see but stay calm, no one`s jumping at your throat. I`m not ashamed of the fact that I abssolutely HATED Dark Harbor, for instance. Being a fan doesn`t mean worshipping every movie he`s in.

Alba - Honey, if came here expecting a beating then you're on the wrong board! Well...we do break out the whips and chains every once in awhile, but that's merely for recreational purposes. *snort* No one gets upset in here because of a difference of opinion unless you're rude. -- SPOILER -- Believe me, if AR hadn't been in Judas Kiss, I would have kicked the movie out right after the alien lesbian porn scene and smashed it with a golf club! But, I've learned that AR can create a wonderful, indepth character that lingers in my mind even in the midst of a real stinko movie.

Was that rude? *Bowing my apologies to the Judas Kiss fans around the globe*

Buenas Dias, Alba! No beatings here. There have been several AR films which I would never have seen if he hadn't been in them - Dark Harbor, for one, and I can't say I like that because his character was so obviously (at the end of the film) manipulative - others, as well.

He is a BIG draw for me. If nothing else, I'm always fascinated by his performance of a role.

Oh, heck - I just love to watch the man talk!  The 'droll life' of the mouth.

 The Winter Guest style, I see. Oh CatsPlay what a fabulous find, my enthuziasm knows no limits now!

And I`m REALLY curious to see his solution for pushing her without using his hands!...

Oh Vicki, count me in as a fan as well! I just loved the cast, they were marvellous! And I had NO idea a DVD exists! I MUST thank you, you can bet I`ll look for it now! What a thrilling exprience it must have been!