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Name:

 Sabine

Comments:

 Great discussion, guys!

I was wondering about the different handwriting in the potions book as well. But didn't it say somewhere in HBP that the potions book originally belonged to Snape's mother? Or am I making this up? (I've only read the book once so far.) So, it could have been the handwriting of Snape's mom.

Wednesday, November 30th 2005 - 08:07:37 PM

Name:

 kathy

Comments:

 oooooooo Reedpipe and Christina (and Dee, too) Wouldn't that be something if Snape and Lily had been cohorts in potions, maybe Snape loved Lily?? After all DD said Snape had been loved

Wednesday, November 30th 2005 - 05:32:15 PM

Name:

 Christina

Comments:

 Yes, but it`s a bit weird because Snape obviously said the book belonged to him and that he created those spells and so forth.
Many speculations have been made over Snape and Lily`s relationship, but somehow I don`t see JKR as the "romantic type". It would sound a bit like "beauty and the beast", come to think of it and I think she is avoiding that "trap".Though, yes, it would be nice, wouldn`t it? :) The idea that this poor and sulky boy loved this beautiful and intelligent girl from afar and somehow became responsable for her death and that the guilt is haunting him still. It would be nice but I think that is also highly unlikely. JKR said (and not only once) that we really should feel no pitty for Snape. And the other thing I find most intriguing is the fact that she said something like "yes, someone indeed loved him, which makes him even more culpable." I do hope that she wasn`t talking about his mother! :)

Wednesday, November 30th 2005 - 05:22:27 PM

Name:

 Reedpipe

Location:

 CT

Comments:

 I'd forgotten about Slughorn's description of Lily . . . . Didn't Hermione also think some of the handwriting looked like a girl's? Hmmmm indeed!

Wednesday, November 30th 2005 - 02:54:08 PM

Name:

 Christina

Comments:

 Oh yes, Reedpipe, definetly! You and me both! But i was still in shock, even if I thought about it. His role became more important with each book! Can`t wait for the seventh one, JKR is driving me crazy waiting like this.
But you know what I found kinda peculiar? The fact that Slughorn described Lily as being "master of potions" in her school days, and not Severus. *hmmm....*

Wednesday, November 30th 2005 - 02:38:06 PM

Name:

 Reedpipe

Location:

 CT

Comments:

 Ohh, Christina, I had the same hunch about Snape being the HBP from the beginning too! Didja notice that JKR's description of the HBP's handwriting in Book 6 was almost exactly the same as her description of young Severus' handwriting in Book 5? I almost did a dance of joy when I got to that part.

Wednesday, November 30th 2005 - 02:18:58 PM

Name:

 Christina

Comments:

 Dee, in my winter holliday I could browse the articles (I`ve been meaning to do that for some time now) and send you via e-mail some interesting excerpts.
And I could not believe that when it happened! I always had a hunch that Snape will be the HB prince! And when I read about the potions manual, I said "Lady, you may have hit the jackpot with this one!" :)

Wednesday, November 30th 2005 - 01:57:04 PM

Name:

 Dee

Comments:

 I love the speculating too...but I'm always wrong! Before Book 6 came out, I thought Harry might be the Half Blood Prince (his mother was a muggle, after all). Then JKR tricked us with that whole "last name" thing!

With my slow dialup connection, I have trouble opening mugglenet. It takes forever...and I usually give up before it opens! Sounds like I'm missing some good stuff.

Wednesday, November 30th 2005 - 10:19:47 AM

Name:

 Christina

Comments:

 O I forgot this. Yes you may be right in your speculation about DD and Snape, I remember reading something like this on mugglenet too. The Unbreakable Vow thing is a very complex one. "do your best to help Draco". Ok, but Snape perspective on this could be different than Narcissa. How can this Vow apply then? Also! To tell the truth is one thing, to lie - the opposite, but what about simply not telling all you know? In which category doest that fit? It`s a complex matter. I truly blame JKR for the fact that my nails will definetly never be the same again! :) LOL!

Wednesday, November 30th 2005 - 08:40:16 AM

Name:

 Christina

Comments:

 Kathy dear, you are not alone! And you are definetly not the only middle-age fan I know! :)
Yes, it`s true that DD said (when speaking to Harry) that Snape only heard the first part of the prophecy. BUT! As I read in one of those editorials, Trelawny stated that only after she finished "giving the prophecy" (of course she still doesn`t know what she said and the importance of it, I used that expression because I cannot remember her exact words) Snape was discoverd at the door. So it would be impossible for him not to hear the whole story.I do hope this is not a mistake made by JKR. (but this is better explained in the editorial, if you experience trouble finding it, let me know and I`ll do a quick search. You can also look not only in the collumns but also in the archive, they have a lot of interesting things there.)There is this theory also, that DD kept the truth from Harry when saying Snape never heard the entire prophecy, but I cannot remember the reason behind it. Yes, it is a shame that the books are coming to an end, I love speculating also and I too will be heartbroken if it turns out that Harry was right about Snape all along. Most of the writers of mugglenet editorials consider him to be the most interesting and complex character in the books.

Wednesday, November 30th 2005 - 08:34:11 AM

Name:

 kathy

Comments:

 OK Christina you've got me hooked on the mugglenet editorials *LOL* I had one thought ----suppose the reason DD can absolutely trust SS is that he took some kind of unbreakable vow to tell DD the truth. ?????

Wednesday, November 30th 2005 - 12:05:34 AM

Name:

 kathy

Comments:

 Christina and Dee--
Nice to know I'm not the only obsessed HP fan (maybe the only middle-aged one!) Christina, I like your take on things, but didn't DD or someone in Book 6 say that SS only heard part of the prophecy? I might have to force my self to re-read the book *smile* for the 4th or 5th time! I'll have to try mugglenet and read some of the analysis on Snape's character. I don't know if it is wishful thinking on my part, but it would be hard for me to see Snape as truly evil when he has had so many opportunities to act and doesn't, flawed certainly,but not truly evil. At the end of book 6 he could have ended the whole business by knocking off Harry right then. I love speculating, I will actually be sad when book 7 is out and all the secrets are known.

Tuesday, November 29th 2005 - 03:16:54 PM

Name:

 Christina

Comments:

 Dee and Kathy - as I am a huge HP fan, I discovered the editorials section on mugglenet.com and I have to say I became addicted to them. Of course some of them are really far out (like Snape being an Animagus and that he will raise a spider army!) but most of them are really interesting. After HBP they really started debating his character a lot. If you are interested I could search and point some of them out. I think I read most of them, especially Snape related. Anyway, in one or two the writer gave an in-depth analysis over what happened the night Harry`s parents were killed and how could Snape be a part of it all. He demonstrated that it was impossible for Snape not to hear the ENTIRE prophecy at The Hog`s Head that night when DD talked to Trelawny. So her/his conclussion was that (and this is a big theory among HP fans) DD decided to forgive Snape because he chose to give Voldemort only the first part of the propecy, and thus pointing out that he indeed had second thoughts about the whole thing.
I`m not sure he was present that night when Harry`s parents were killed, it could have been Wormtail just as much, but it would be nice to think it was Snape, doesn`t it? It would give the whole story a different perspective. And I actually think I`d rather see him sacrificing for Harry`s sake than being killed by Harry, Voldemort or another Death Eater. Beacuse, come on, it`s obvious he`s not gonna live long and prosper and that the ghosts of his past will keep on haunting him. I think this is his only way to redeem himself,I doubt he will survive the 7th one. And I don`t think I want that either, I`d rather cry at the end knowing he did the right thing. Of course, this theory falls to pieces if he really is evil. And , I don`t know, JKR surely suggested it. But I also think AR`s manner of playing Snape contradicts that.
Oh boy this is a long post. Sorry! :)

Tuesday, November 29th 2005 - 01:37:15 PM

Name:

 Dee

Comments:

 Kathy - Sounds like we have a similar theory. Although I will be devastated, DEVASTATED, if Snape dies! Really good books draw me in emotionally -- so if the author slips me a tramatic ending...I'm heartbroken. (And I will never read another of their books again! "Screw with my head, will ya!" *snort*)

Yes, I've read book 6...and I want one of those t-shirts that say, "Snape is innocent! DD made him do it!"

Tuesday, November 29th 2005 - 11:17:43 AM

Name:

 Kathy

Comments:

 Dee--- it's funny you should say that about DD, JKR has said that someone else was there the night Harry's mom and dad were killed. After reading HPatHBP I was thinking that Snape was there....My thought is that after he realized what he had done by giving Voldemort the info about Harry's parents, he went to DD and confessed, then went to Harry's family to warn them and somehow made an unbreakable vow to Harry's mother that he would save Harry. I think some of Snape's surlishness with Harry is that Harry reminds Snape of his indescretion. I have a feeling that in the last book Snape dies (sniff) trying to save Harry. Have you had a chance to read book 6 yet?

Tuesday, November 29th 2005 - 01:02:05 AM

Name:

 Dee

Comments:

 I've already posted my opinion of the movie on the regular guestbook, but I've got a couple questions/comments that would be better here.

During the scene where Harry when back in DD's memory to the trial: DD gave a short, heated speech when Snape was accused of also being a Deatheater. DD's response was different from the book, and there something odd about what he said. For some reason I got the strangest feeling that Snape might have been present when Harry's mom was killed and baby Harry attacked. Does anyone remember what DD said?

AR looked soooooo trim! Teh pudge was nowhere in sight! Has anyone noticed if AR looked slim in candid photos taken during the same time period, or is it possible he was wearing "something" to look thinner for the film?

Sunday, November 27th 2005 - 08:30:52 PM

Name:

 Barbara

Location:

 NZ

Comments:

 Just been to see the film and thought it was really great. Differed from the book in many ways but as a film I think it was effective. I was a bit surprised that the ship and carriage of the teams came before the announcement of the Tournament. Felt the end in the graveyard and unmasking of Moody was a bit rushed. I noticed Snape had the task of opening the magic Moody trunk not Dumbledore so although we are sorry Alan wasn't in it as much as we would like, he did hover very well and did have that extra bit of business.

Thursday, November 24th 2005 - 10:08:55 PM

Name:

 tuplow

Location:

 Budapest, Hungary

E-mail address:

 tuplow@oszk.hu

Comments:

 Thanks Vicki,

quite clear now.
(I probably should have my ears looked at.)

Thursday, November 24th 2005 - 10:14:46 AM

Name:

 Vicki

Location:

 Los Angeles

Comments:

 tuplow - Here is what is said:

Ron: This is mad. At this rate we'll be the only ones in our year without dates.

*Snape grabs his head and pushes it down*

Ron: ...well, us and Neville.

Harry: Yeah, but then again, he can take himself.

*Ron and Harry laugh*

Hermione: It might interest you to know that Neville's already got someone.

Ron: Now I'm really depressed.

Hope this helps!

Thursday, November 24th 2005 - 03:03:53 AM

Name:

 tuplow

Location:

 Budapest, Hungary

E-mail address:

 tuplow@oszk.hu

Comments:

 Hi All,

I have a question that may sound a bit embarrassing

My English could be limited, but I just cannot get a few lines of dialogue in the scene where the trio is talking about getting dates, and Snape is stalking behind them

The part I cannot make out starts after Snape first grabs Weasley's head and lasts till Weasley says: "Now I'm really depressed"

Can anyone remember what are they saying? Maybe something about Snape not getting dates?

thanks

Wednesday, November 23rd 2005 - 06:44:57 PM

Name:

 SeverinaSnape

Location:

 London

Homepage URL:

 http://www.livejournal.com/users/nativemoon

Comments:

 Re the 'Master' thing -

Snape in the books tends to be very formal with DD - usually only ever referring to him as 'Headmaster' - perhaps the use of 'Master' in GOF is a variation on that theme... and a most interesting one given he DOES serve two masters...

Wednesday, November 23rd 2005 - 06:12:55 PM

Name:

 tuplow

Location:

 Budapest, Hungary

E-mail address:

 tuplow@oszk.hu

Comments:

 Catsplay,

and what would that be?
If you are shy, you can reply private on the e-mail address given to this post (not the other one on my earlier posts)

give it a shot, I know just about everything...:-P

Wednesday, November 23rd 2005 - 10:03:06 AM

Name:

 CatsPlay

Location:

 Pittsburgh

Comments:

 Tuplow, I think you know something I want to know!!

Tuesday, November 22nd 2005 - 03:01:32 PM

Name:

 tuplow

Location:

 Budapest, Hungary

E-mail address:

 tuplow@axelero.hu

Comments:

 Yes, he *does* say "Master", if I heard it correctly.
It made me wonder, too, and I watched that scene several times
(but probably I am not supposed to say that :-P)

Tuesday, November 22nd 2005 - 12:51:24 PM

Name:

 CatsPlay

Location:

 Pittsburgh

Comments:

 Did anyone else notice Snape also smiled/smirked at one point??! Sitting in the stands for one of the events.....I also read somewhere on another LJ that in the scene where Snape, McG, and DD are discussing whether Harry should proceed, Snape addressed DD as 'Master'. I've gotta go back and see it again, I hadn't caught that!

Tuesday, November 22nd 2005 - 09:35:55 AM

Name:

 AFNH

Comments:

 I agree about the Barty Crouch Senior death, it did seem a little up in the air. Maybe they should have slipped it into the Veritaserum scene near the end, it would have tied it all up.
Also, a small mention of Mad Eye Moody nearer the beginning would have had a greater effect for his entrance in the Great Hall. He was mentioned at The Burrow in the book, so one of them could have been reading a paper or something, and mention the disturbance at MEM's house, then Ron could have filled us in on how he knew of Moody's reputation through his dad, so once MEM stomped into the Great Hall, the scene would have been already set.
Loved the scene in Snape's potions cupboard, too, I grinned all the way through that!

Monday, November 21st 2005 - 05:49:25 PM

Name:

 Vicki

Location:

 Los Angeles

Comments:

 I've been going over the film in my mind (and I fully intend to go see it again this holiday week)and the only part that I thought should have been acted a little differently was the part in the graveyard where Wormtail cuts off his own hand. In the book, Pettigrew is clearly hesitant and is motivated more by fear of reprisal from Voldy than by any loyalty. Then when he does cut off the hand, he is whimpering and groveling on the ground, begging for some show of mercy from his master.

In the film, Pettigrew just seems so matter-of-fact about losing his own hand and doesn't seem to show any semblance of pain at all...or any regret at having just mutilated himself!

Perhaps they did this because they were trying to dial down the gruesome factor for the younger children. But it seems more of a disservice to children to treat a horrible act like this without showing that there are painful consequences. I'm not saying they have to show gushing blood and an ugly stump. But, I just think he should have showed a little bit more fear/pain. That's how I remember it in the book. That's about my only complaint.

Monday, November 21st 2005 - 05:12:27 PM

Name:

 Reedpipe

Location:

 CT

Comments:

 sue -- I had that same exact thought with the first glimpse of "Snape" in the back of the Great Hall. The stand-in (I'm quite sure) just didn't have the same easy grace of movement that AR does!

BTW, I'm in the camp that loved the movie. Even with inadequate stand-ins.

Monday, November 21st 2005 - 02:45:50 PM

Name:

 Elaine

Comments:

 I've seen it at last, and I, too, think it is the best so far! It was a "stand alone" movie, and I know there will be those who just can't wait to debate what was left out, but if you had done the whole book, we would have been there all day! As it is, I think Steve Kloves did a good job in leaving just enough in to keep the story going.

And Snape is always there, in the background mostly, but his two "major" scenes were brilliant. The voice is even more silky smooth than ever and it promises much for the next 3 films! I loved the scene in his store cupboard.

It was also the first one of the films that made me cry! And even Dan Radcliffe's acting has got better, although I though Emma Watson overdid it in places. Rupert Grint is the best of the three. The students I really loved were Fred & George. I though Ralph Fiennes was marvellous, and Brendon Gleeson (who has an accent to die for), and practically everyone! And Gambon's Dumbledore is now well established. Great!

THe only thing that I felt was a bit left up in the air was Barty Crouch Sr's death. There was no real rhyme or reason to it as it was portrayed in the film - or maybe I missed the significance. That's my only criticism. All I can think of is, can't wait for the dvd to get all those WONDERFUL Snape caps!

Monday, November 21st 2005 - 01:26:17 PM

Name:

 Alfan

Comments:

 Yah, that dragon chasing Harry scene is good, the dragon's tail drags behind him and crashes through the spectators stands and both Minerva and Snape have to dive/fall out of the way,,,,,,,,the look on Snape's face is funny because not only is he unhappy about having to dive out of the way of Harry Potter again, i dont think he is happy that it is Minerva who is on top of him........quite funny. I still say thought that at it feel funny that Snape is used for comedy relief, im sure that will change in movie six and seven.

Monday, November 21st 2005 - 12:03:17 PM

Name:

 Claudia

Location:

 GA

Comments:

 Thank you Catsplay. I broke my own request by asking the question on the main board! I ought to be hung! LOL Sorry.

Monday, November 21st 2005 - 09:47:33 AM

Name:

 CatsPlay

Comments:

 Sorry, that should be 'crashes through part of the ROOF'

Monday, November 21st 2005 - 09:01:28 AM

Name:

 CatsPlay

Location:

 Pittsburgh

Comments:

 Claudia,
The Snape pic you asked about on the main board -- this is from the first task -- the dragons -- and while the dragon is chasing Harry on his broom, the dragon crashes through part of the room of the area where the spectators are sitting, and a few people get knocked over. It is a very quick few seconds, not really dwelt upon.

But, when I saw the scene I knew there was a 'flash of color' that I saw as Snape was being knocked down, not his traditional black. From the screenshots I can now tell that that color was McGonigals (sp?) plaid hat.

Monday, November 21st 2005 - 09:00:54 AM

Name:

 sue

Location:

 chillyengland

Comments:

 Yes Sabine, they were rather reminiscent of the KKK weren't they? Maybe though that was a deliberate ploy by the director to comapre the Deatheaters to rascists as they loathe Muggles and Mudbloods. It made them more scary I thought.

Monday, November 21st 2005 - 08:42:42 AM

Name:

 Sabine

Location:

 GA

Comments:

 sue - I agree that GoF is the best movie so far. I didn't even notice that Voldie didn't have red eyes! LOL I really liked the way he looked though. What I didn't like was the the way the death eaters looked. I didn't like those hats they were wearing; I always pictured them wearing hooded robes and not poiny hats. Just MHO of course. :-)

Monday, November 21st 2005 - 06:46:49 AM

Name:

 sue

Location:

 england

Comments:

 I loved it.
Although I love the books I am not one of those who thinks everything should be in the film or that nothing should be added.
I thought there was a much more real feel of a British boarding school which I have just read is what the director wanted to add.
Rupert Grint has learned a couple of new expressions and I can see the young man who played Cedric going far too, I bet he has picked up a lot of fans!
Naturally there is never enough Snape but what there was was top stuff and he did seem to be in a lot of scenes even if he didn't have many lines. However did anybody else think that the very first view of Snape at the back of the hall whilst Dumbledore was talking may have been a stand in??
Voldy was pretty good but shouldn't he have had red eyes? However I did keep thinking of Ralph Fiennes in The English Patient there was a lot of similarities with the *burnt look*!
Mad Eye Moody was better than I thought he was going to be from the trailers too.
Cedric's death was well-handled. They didn't overdo it or make it too bland and I felt a prickle in the eye at the scene when his father came down to his body.
All in all I think it is the best so far.

Sunday, November 20th 2005 - 07:50:20 AM

Name:

 SeverinaSnape

Location:

 London

Homepage URL:

 http://www.livejournal.com/users/nativemoon

Comments:

 Alfan - Voldemort's comment about his most trusted servant being at Hogwarts refers to Barty Jr. - who was at Hogwarts diguised at Moody which was Voldemort's plan. Snape could not have said anything other than what he said because it was a fact that the name in the Goblet constituted a binding magical contact - which DD himself pointed out in the book and which Moody (Barty Jr.) backed up. Harry had no choice but to compete - it was an Unbreakable Vow of sorts...

have a look at the Harry Potter Lexicon here

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/crouch.html


Also remember Voldemort's comment in GOF once resurrected:

"And here we have six missing Death Eaters...three dead in my service. One to cowardly to return...he will pay. One who I believe has left me forever...he will be killed of course...and one, who remains my most faithful servant, and who has always re-entered my service."

The coward was Karkaroff; The one the Voldemort believed had left was Snape; and the most faithful of course was Barty Jr. who had been at Hogwarts carrying out his master's plan. Check out the 'Veritaserum' chapter of GOF...Barty Jr's confession. He believed he was to be honoured above all others for what he had done...

In Book 6 we learned that Snape had to answer an awful lot of questions put to him by his master (and he was probably Crucioed in the process like Avery in GOF) and that many of the DE are stirring against him because he was seemingly in DD's pockets living a comfy life at Hogwarts and wasnt doing any of the dirty work once he was back in the fold... Bellatrix was simply deluded: as DD indicates in Book 6 - Many DE's would swear that they and they alone are their master's friend, confidant etc, most loyal, trusted etc. He said that those in Voldemort's ranks who thought that way were fooling themselves.

Voldemort trusts no one and the DEs play a dangerous game in trying to stay on his 'good side'... Snape to his credit, sees that...

Hmm I must go and write another Snape essay...


Sunday, November 20th 2005 - 05:38:18 AM

Name:

 Alfan

Location:

 brrrrr

Comments:

 ok, i was thinking of something else about the movie.Well, a couple things actually. The first being, i was actually impressed with the acting of Emma Watson, she did wonderfully when whe was emotionally upset with Ron. But the one thing that has struck me when i saw it in the movie and continue's to make me think is Snape. Right after Harry's name comes out of the goblet and they go to the room where DD goes a little ape on Harry. Does anyone notice that Snape is the only one who thinks Harry should compete,not because he has to like Mr. Crouch says he has to. Everyone thinks he shouldnt or are worried because its dangerous. This strikes me as odd, because you think Snape would say something about him not being in the tournement because of his already celebrity status and this will just make his ego bigger. But he doesnt, he actually thinks Harry should compete. Did JKR do this purposly to throw us off the path again, or did Snape actually really want Harry to win and take the cup because he knew it was a port-key. In the book, Voldemort says that he is missing his most trusted deatheater,he is at hogwarts.In HBP-Snape says to Bella that he is Voldemorts most trusted deatheater.But how could he be when the plan was put into play before he really knew that Voldemort was back, i know his dark mark was hurting more and more wich maybe suggested that the followers knew but did Snape know the plan all along? Maybe we are wrong about Snape, maybe he really is a bad guy after all ( my gut no and says the DD death was a set up though). Maybe Voldemort wasnt talking to Barty after all about the plan, maybe he was talking to Nagini, maybe Nagini is Snape in animagus( there is no way in my opinion that a dark wizard as himself could/would not be an unregestered animagus.. oooh,oooh. hee hee....fod for thought.

Sunday, November 20th 2005 - 12:43:10 AM

Name:

 Kathy

Comments:

 I have yet to like a movie as well as I liked a book, but this came pretty close. Special effects were great, the balance between humor and sadness--loved Filch's scenes in the beginning. If you think about it, none of the teachers except Dumbledore and Moody had many scenes. Maggie Smith had less than AR. I, too think they missed the boat with not having shown Snape with the DM on his arm, and to explain Barty Crouch's death. I think this movie has a maturity that the others didn't (and I loved them as well) The whole graveyard scene was very well done--in many ways as I imagined it in the book. Scary but not gross, the emotion came across excellently. It must have been a nightmare to have had the task of condesing such a huge book into a movie so I have to say well done in that respect. Hope Newell does the rest, I like his style. I also like the new music.

Saturday, November 19th 2005 - 11:43:47 PM

Name:

 Sabine

Location:

 GA

Comments:

 We just got back from the movie theater and I must say that I really liked GoF. I did think however, like most people did, that too many important things were left out. For example: Barty Crouch Sr. just shows up dead in the forest one day and nobody seemed to wonder why. And it was never said who killed Crouch. I'm really surprised that your husband didn't have any questions, Vicki, and that he was able to follow the story w/o having read the books. I kept thinking that I would be confused if I hadn't read the books.

As far as Dumbledore goes: I've liked Michael Gambon as Dumbledore from the very first movie he was in. Having said that, I did not feel that the Dumbledore in the GoF movie acted like the Dumbledore in the book. Something was off, can't quite put my finger on it.

I agree with you guys, the special effects were great! I wish they had shown the Quidditch match.

When Snape said to Harry "Don't lie to me," I immediately thought of Veresna Ussep's story. LOL

Okay, nuff rambling from me. :-)


Saturday, November 19th 2005 - 10:50:21 PM

Name:

 Vicki

Location:

 Los Angeles

Comments:

 Wooo-Hooooo! I went last night with my husband and son to see Goblet of Fire. My 18 year old daughter refused to go with us....the parental units and kid brother are "totally uncool" (her loss). I must say that I think this was the BEST of all four movies so far. Mike Newall did a fabulous job! When you think of how thick the book is, it must have been a frightening task to have to condense it down into a 2 1/2 hour film. But, in my opinion, he did a great job!

I went to the theater about 4pm to buy tickets for the 9:15pm show. The multiplex where we saw it had 5 screens of Harry Potter running (out of a total of 21). We arrived at the theater at 8:30 only to have to stand at the back of a HUMONGUS line that wrapped around the side of the building. There were equally long lines already forming for the 10:45 and 11:15pm showings. They let us enter the theater about 25-30 people at a time (probably to avoid a melee rush for seats). By the time we were permitted to enter, we could not find three seats together. So, my husband sat in front of us and my son and I sat behind him. BTW, I wore my "Snape is Innocent" t-shirt and not one person made a comment about it - sheesh! Anyway - we sat in the middle of the theater looking up at a 70 foot screen and an awesome sound system....I was in heaven!

Now, my husband has never read any of the books. But, he has watched and enjoyed all of the movies so far. I knew that there would be a large part of the story missing so I told him if he didn't understand anything to just ask. To my surprise, he was able to follow the storyline with no trouble at all! He also agreed that this was by far the best of the films. It didn't hurt that this one was filled with a lot of action...guys like that. I still filled him in on missing details on the drive home. But he said that he was never confused or left wondering what was happening.

I loved the humor in this one and although we didn't hear much of Alan's beautiful voice, he was still there to look at and admire. His one big scene where he accuses Harry of stealing from his stores was great. His "child abuse" scene got one of the biggest laughs in the theater.

I agree that the CG animation has come a long way. Compared to the first film's Firenze this was much more realistic. If they do keep Firenze for the 5th film, I'm hoping they blend Jude Law's body with that of a horse...that's who I always picture as Firenze when I read the books. ;0)

To those who didn't like the film because of what was missing I can only say that THIS best expresses my feelings about that issue. A film can never be like the book. You must go into the theater telling yourself that, or you will always be disappointed. JMHO.

Saturday, November 19th 2005 - 08:55:52 PM

Name:

 SeverinaSnape

Location:

 London

Homepage URL:

 http://www.livejournal.com/users/nativemoon

Comments:

 I have been meaning to post this since the news came through my email:

From the article: http://www.vh1.com/movies/movie/239761/news/articles/1513756/story.jhtml

Daniel Radcliffe Talks: The Trouble With Harry

Interviewer: Do you hate Alan Rickman's character Severus Snape as much as I do now after reading Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince?

DR: Unless he's like a double double double double spy! That's the thing: Alan Rickman knows the truth about his character! He knows. He has got information from J.K. Rowling -- I think probably the only person in the world, but he knows about Snape!

Interviewer: Wow!

DR: You just don't know. If you'd read the first book, and somebody had told you what was going to happen in the fourth, you would never have believed them. But by the time you get to the fourth, there is an utterly logical and satisfactory explanation for everything that happens. If anyone's gonna come up with Snake being a double double double double spy and make it believable, it will be J.K. Rowling.

Interviewer: You've speculated that Harry might not get out of the whole thing alive. I don't know if that was before you read the sixth book. Now I don't see how he can handle Voldemort on his own.

DR: Really? I think there has got to have been something between Snape and Harry's mum in it. I don't know that for sure. But I mean, based on what you sort of seeing in the fifth book, I think there was something more to their relationship. I certainly think you're right, and I'm not sure Harry could take him on alone, unless there's a very big event that really hardens Harry and strengthens him halfway through the seventh. I don't think he's a powerful enough wizard. Maybe that will be Snape's redeeming quality!


Lisa

Saturday, November 19th 2005 - 01:50:29 PM

Name:

 CatsPlay

Location:

 Pittsburgh

Comments:

 A couple of other things I thought of this morning....

1) the first 5-10 minutes seemed SO incredibly rushed, didn't they? I understand why they did it, I just sat there with a 'wow, they are skipping so much' feeling

2) How about Snape hovering over Dumbledore comforting him at Cedric's death scene....? Thought that was interesting. Yum

3) Did anyone notice the odd kind of gothy looking girl standing next to Snape (on his left) during one of the brief glimpses of him at the Yule Ball? Wonder who she was supposed to be??

4) The scene when Snape is knocked over at the Dragon task (think that's when it was). I wanna go back and watch that...as brief as it was, I think he had on some kind of colored scarf or something. I could be wrong.

Saturday, November 19th 2005 - 10:08:41 AM

Name:

 Hikity

Comments:

 03:37AM 11/19/2005

I really missed the elves and Hermione's SPEW action, as I think it is a very important part of the book, demonstrating the fundamentally good in humans, social commitment and justice etc and being the antipol to Voldemort's and his deatheaters' actions.

Saturday, November 19th 2005 - 08:03:31 AM

Name:

 Afan

Comments:

 12:00AM 11/19/2005

My turn..............just got back from GOF and i have three things to say.

#1- i have to agree with the person who said, " Snape is always there but doesnt have alote of speaking parts" and when he does, they are delicious. *slight spoiler but nothing we havnt seen on the trailers or talked about here already*--Snape to me should never of have been and never should be comic releif for a HP movie.

#2-this is by far the best movie to date. It has just the right amount of drama, suspense and humor.

#3- Gambon grew a bit on me in this movie but still not how i picture DD from both the books and the way RH portrayed him.

I remember thinking watching The Philosopher Stone how phony and fake Ferenz looked when he came to save Harry, well i can honestly tell you,,,,,,,,,they have come along way.

Saturday, November 19th 2005 - 07:55:49 AM

Name:

 Thea

Comments:

 11:47PM 11/18/2005

I await the reading of much enlightened discourse tomorrow, but before I go to bed two thoughts:

1. Satai Delenn, the Weasleys don't leave Hogwarts until the end of Book Five (remember the scene where they set off all the whizzers or whatever to distract Umbridge and they leave before Filch takes them away? They do, however, get the money in Book Four.

2. I thought Michael Gambon was great.

3. (Okay, so there's three thoughts before bedie-bye) To paraphrase a line from an old Tracey/Hepburn film: "There wasn't much of AR in the movie, but what was there was choice."

Saturday, November 19th 2005 - 07:53:17 AM

Name:

 Satai Delenn

Comments:

 09:57PM 11/18/2005

I know that a lot of people liked it. I did find it funny and entertaining on the surface level, but the storyline was just too weak. And there were things that were in book and were important but weren't in the movie. Two of these were Snape's Dark Mark, and Fred & George Weasely getting Harry's winnings from the Tri-Wizard Tournament and planning to buy Zonco's Joke Shop which means that they wouldn't be in school in the 5th movie/book........ By not doing this they've completely changed the story for those characters! That is important! They are NOT supposed to be in school in the 5th book/movie! But, whatever. I'm very disappointed in a lot of the decisions made where the movies are concerned.


Saturday, November 19th 2005 - 07:50:09 AM

Name:

 Marlina

E-mail address:

 Indonesia

Comments:

 Satai~ Fred and George leaving is on book five...

Alan is so good in it!

Especially the scene with Harry.. Where he call Harry a lier for stealing his Potions Indregents!

Saturday, November 19th 2005 - 07:47:20 AM

Name:

 Satai Delenn

Comments:

 6:02AM 11/18/2005

Hi guys! I just got back from watching GOF.

It was better than I was expecting, and yet still sorely disappointing! SO MUCH WAS LEFT OUT!!!!!

No Snape's Dark Mark, NO MENTION/CATCHING Rita Skeeter! No revelation about Fred and George leaving school to start their joke shop!!!!!!!!!

Saturday, November 19th 2005 - 07:36:53 AM

Name:

 Claudia

Location:

 GA

Comments:

 Warner Bros. has provided us with posters from Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire for three lucky winners of our new caption contest. The link above will take you to the contest area and provides the what, how, and when of our contest.

Happy captioning everyone!

Saturday, November 12th 2005 - 07:43:15 AM

Name:

 Claudia

Location:

 GA

Comments:

 The link above for the streaming video of the premiere is still good. They are running the stream constantly for anyone that might have missed it.

BTW, when is the New York premiere?

Monday, November 7th 2005 - 08:49:57 AM

Name:

 CatsPlay

Location:

 Pittsburgh

Comments:

 Came across this review of GOF here
review

note:

Alan Rickman reprising his role as Snape. Snape is barely in the film until the very very end, but his scenes (where he is mostly) silent stand out (tho this could be attributed to revelations in Book 6 leaking into my head).



Sunday, November 6th 2005 - 03:36:16 PM

Name:

 Claudia

Location:

 GA

Comments:

 Great news everyone! In my mailbox was a note from a person in the Interactive Marketing department at Warner Brothers. After I verified that this person is for real......I picked myself up off the floor and I continued to read his mail. It would seem that he thinks our little place on the Internet would be a great place to spread the word about GoF.

To get us started, he has given us our own copies of these official stills from GOF. I know we have seen them before, but they're worth posting again.

I've created a Photobucket account just for these stills and posted a link to them at the top of this page.


Thank you Warner Bros!

Also, today is the GoF premiere! There is an official WB streaming video site. I've put the link on the top of this page as well.

I watched the Hitchhiker's permiere in London through video stream and it was a lot of fun. Happy watching everyone!

Sunday, November 6th 2005 - 08:12:37 AM

Name:

 SeverinaSnape

Location:

 London

Comments:

 Martha - Just a few thoughts based on your own musings. I have always thought Barty Jr. was collecting information on Snape for reasons of his own moreso than Voldemort's sayso - remember his messages about how he didnt think that leopards couldnt change certain spots (paraphrasing) and that if it was one thing he always hated, it was a Death Eater that went free - Alastor Moody certainly has that attitude - but looking at Barty Jr - its just as applicable. There is so much we dont know about the young Severus Snape and what he did as a Death Eater...there are reasons why Barty Jr. said those things in Book 4 - I would love to know what they are...

It would be interesting if Voldemort had only ever saw Snape as an expendable pawn - but I am thinking that perhaps the other Death Eaters who considered themselves more loyal like Bellatrix and Barty Jr - would do anything to undermine his position and see him possibly eliminated. Even in Book 6 Wormtail is listening at doors etc at Spinners End and Snape says that he doesnt know what Wormtail means by it (but of course he does...); Bellatrix and other DE's are badmouthing Snape to the Dark Lord and Snape is having to make sure his answers and alibis are airtight. I would imagine it has always been like that - people jockeying for position even in the first war.

It strikes me that Voldemort's circle is no different than any other clique - there is always someone who wants to be the Number One/Right Hand. With Lucius in Azkaban everyone is jokeying for position and Snape's rather comfortable existence at Hogwarts and out of the battles makes him target as much as him having been Lucius' 'old friend'...

Friday, October 28th 2005 - 12:47:12 PM

Name:

 martha

Comments:

 Vicki - Good points. Perhaps BCJr was also gathering info on Snape? That Dark Mark is certainly well done, but given what it "means," I'm not sure I'd like it over my house!



SeverinaSnape - I, too, was struck by the difference once we were out of Harry's POV. Makes me want to see more of the adults from someone else's POV - lol!

Friday, October 28th 2005 - 07:14:35 AM

Name:

 SeverinaSnape

Location:

 London

Homepage URL:

 http://livejournal.com/user/nativemoon

Comments:

 I've started re-reading Book 6 again and something has struck me: there is a huge difference in the way that Snape is described in the "adult" POV of the Spinner's End chapter and what follows ie, Harry's POV...

When we read the Spinner's End chapter the Potions Master is decribed as a 'sliver of a man' with 'curtains of hair' - no reference the 'Greasy Git' persona at all.

Then as soon as we come to Harry's POV - the hair is greasy etc...

Cissy certainly wasnt relating to Snape as if he was a 'Greasy Git'...and I still wonder what might have happened if Bellatrix had not been present minding her sister's business...

Friday, October 28th 2005 - 05:25:51 AM

Name:

 Vicki

Location:

 Los Angeles

Comments:

 Snape hadn't had any contact with Voldemort up to that point(since Voldie's disappearance)so Snape wouldn't have been in a position to plant the portkey. The tournament was going to take place anyway. Voldie had his "inside man" planted (B.C.Jr.)to accomplish two things. One, to gather as much information on Harry, Dumbledore, and any info on whether the Order still existed. Two to gain Harry's trust so that when the time was right (when Peter had gathered everything together for Voldie's "rebirth")he could insure that it was Harry who won the tournament and touched the planted portkey, handing him over to Voldemort. In the confusion of the tournament, the adults who were supposed to be protecting Harry wouldn't realize what had happened until it was too late. So, going through the hoop-la of the tournament was worth the wait for them...that's my interpretation, at least.

On a different note, just saw this over on Mugglenet. For Halloween, a family in Texas has created a dark mark out of green rope lights and has it hovering over their house. Pretty cool, huh?

Tuesday, October 25th 2005 - 03:00:05 PM

Name:

 martha

Comments:

 Vicki - Your post has me wondering. Why go to all that hoop-la of the Tri-Wizard Tournament to get Harry? If Snape was working for Voldemort, why not have him give Harry some kind of Portkey? For that matter, why not BC Jr? Why the whole Tournament thing?

Monday, October 24th 2005 - 08:25:09 AM

Name:

 Vicki

Location:

 Los Angeles

Comments:

 Well, the diary was one of the first horcruxes Voldie made. Maybe he hadn't thought about adding in a protective spell yet?.....OR, maybe his other agenda of re-releasing the Basilisk was the protection surrounding the diary. I'll have to think about this one some more.

I've been thinking more about this horcrux thing. I don't think Voldemort thought out this process very well. He has these various pieces of his soul scattered around to insure his immortality. But it doesn't appear that anyone at all was aware of them. Obviously, for safety reasons, he wasn't going to tell just anybody....but how can he come back to life if there is nobody to find and release his soul from a horcrux? He obviously cannot do it himself. He spent 11 years just existing as vapor because he was too weak to do anything himself about coming back to power. It seems his only recourse was to possess someone, like Quirrel or Ginny, to do his bidding and help him to find or conjure a new body. He failed at both those attempts, thanks to Harry.

In the end, he had to depend on someone else, Peter Pettigrew, to assist him. Peter was able to conjure up a rudimentary body (the shrivelled baby body), secure all the potions necessary for his "rebirth", found Bertha Jorkins who provided the information about Barty Crouch Jr., and BC Jr. helped hand deliver Harry into Voldie's trap. So, Voldemort is not as all powerful as he'd like to believe. He desperately needs his minions to do his bidding in order to make this horcrux thing really work.

I wonder if Regulus Black was one of his chosen confidants as to his use of horcruxes and their locations? That is how he was able to find and destroy the locket...and probably why he was killed. He must have been part of an elite inner circle. Even Lucius Malfoy had no idea that the diary was a horcrux....I wonder if Snape knew?

Monday, October 24th 2005 - 01:13:57 AM

Name:

 AFNH

Comments:

 Y'know - just been thinking about my previous post. DD gets this terrible injury when destroying the ring, but Harry gets none at all when destroying the Tom Riddle diary (which is also a Horcrux). I def. think that there is some protection from his link with Voldie.

Sunday, October 23rd 2005 - 05:07:11 PM

Name:

 AFNH

Comments:

 Y'know - just been thinking about my previous post. DD gets this terrible injury when destroying the ring, but Harry gets none at all when destroying the Tom Riddle diary (which is also a Horcrux). I def. think that there is some protection from his link with Voldie.

Sunday, October 23rd 2005 - 05:06:53 PM

Name:

 Clara

Location:

 cleaning PC screen

Comments:

 *irons hands* Whoops Vicki it was you who commented on the lack of Snape snippets. I really hope we see him giving a Potions lesson in this film.

Thursday, October 20th 2005 - 04:15:47 PM

Name:

 clara

Location:

 In front of the PC

Comments:

 Martha - it seems they´re cutting all the good scenes with Snape in..... so I don´t hold out much hope for the scene with Filch when Snape is in his grey nightshirt (sniff)

Thursday, October 20th 2005 - 04:07:29 PM

Name:

 martha

Comments:

 Vicki - I keep forgetting that Moody isn't Moody in that book. *headdesk* But I sooo wanted to see Snape expose himself. That scene in the book is outstanding.

Thursday, October 20th 2005 - 07:09:13 AM

Name:

 Vicki

Location:

 Los Angeles

Comments:

 martha - that would be Barty Crouch Jr. I agree that Snape revealing his own dark mark is a great moment in the book. Rumor has it that it didn't make the film....we shall see. I would love to see him threatening Harry with Veritaserum or blasting apart the bushes outside the Yule Ball to reveal students snogging....these are also great Snape moments that probably will get cut also....*heavy sigh*

On a brighter note, although not officially confirmed by WB, it appears that Imelda Stauton has been cast as Delores Umbridge for OotP. They begin filming in January and Imelda has been quoted on a talk show as confirming that she has been cast.

Wednesday, October 19th 2005 - 01:54:25 PM

Name:

 martha

Comments:

 In that new pic from GoF, who's that showing off their Dark Mark?? I thought that was Snape's bit.

Wednesday, October 19th 2005 - 11:32:43 AM

Name:

 Clara

Location:

 In front of the PC

Comments:

 I´m re-reading book 1 for clues as to what will happen in book 7, (I´m a fan of the palindrome theory) and Firenze the centaur saves Harry from Voldemort in the Forbidden Forest. Maybe the centaurs and the giants will join forces with the wizarding world and we´ll have a Narnia/Middle-Earth type of battle in book 7.
What will we do after the last HP book? Take refuge in the excellent fanfic available!

Sunday, October 16th 2005 - 01:17:13 PM

Name:

 martha

Comments:

 At The Witching Hour conference in Salem, Professor S read part of her paper on Snape during the panel discussion of Snape's ambiguity. She felt there was no ambiguity to Snape at all. That if Dumbledore's unconditional trust of 18 years has been misplaced, then what is the point of the books? I tend to agree. This is not RL, after all, and JKR is making some kind of point. (Of course, it may be a point that I haven't figured out yet...)


Friday, October 14th 2005 - 08:45:03 AM

Name:

 AFNH

Comments:

 Snape says something similar to Draco during the Slughorn party, "Where would I be if I couldn't act?", or something along those lines. Maybe it's one of JKR's famous red herrings!

Wednesday, October 12th 2005 - 03:40:43 PM

Name:

 Sabine

Location:

 GA

Comments:

 Juliet - maybe you're on to something here. Maybe the true villain of the story isn't Voldemort after all. Maybe it's Snape, and we'll find out his true intentions in book seven.... *grin*

Monday, October 10th 2005 - 04:55:15 PM

Name:

 Vicki

Location:

 Los Angeles

Comments:

 That stupid security guard who stole 2 copies of Half-Blood Prince before it's release is finally going on trial. Apparently he is pleading guilty. You can find the story here

Don't you think the newspaper and their reporters should share in the blame of this idiotic caper? It's situations like this where papers are paying exorbinate amounts of money for either photos or inside info or, in this case, stolen goods, that encourages these kinds of morons and contributes to the rise of paparazzi type "incidents". They are encouraging and rewarding people to break the law or go way beyond the bounds of decent behavior. I guess the only way to quell this cycle is for people to stop buying these "rags". I never have bought one, but apparently many people do as they are quite successful. Go figure.

Monday, October 10th 2005 - 01:01:22 PM

Name:

 Juliet

Location:

 UK

Comments:

 I was just thinking about JKR's comments on Dolores Umbridge, about trying to show how people can be on the "right" side and still be wicked, could fit Snape too. Then I got to thinking about what Snape said to Bellatrix in ch2 of HBP about staying out of Azkaban, and maybe he is just trying to survive and is on no-ones side but his own?
Trying to outguess JKR just ties me up in knots sometimes!!

Monday, October 10th 2005 - 08:18:55 AM

Name:

 Sabine

Location:

 GA

Comments:

 I feel the same way: on the one hand I want JKR to release the next book asap because I want to know "the rest of the story." But on the other hand, as Vicki said, then it would be all over. I could read all the books over (yet again), but it just wouldn't be the same. :-(

But we'd still have several movies to look forward to!

Saturday, October 8th 2005 - 11:19:26 AM

Name:

 Vicki

Location:

 Los Angeles

Comments:

 Awww....but then it would all be over! Part of me wants to know the rest of the story and the other part is willing to wait. The anticipation and accompanying speculation is part of the fun. The woman is a marketing genius. I agree with both of you and am sure you are on the right track re: which side Snape is on. I would just be so disappointed if he really were bad. :0(

Friday, October 7th 2005 - 10:12:51 PM

Name:

 AFNH

Comments:

 And I agree, Sabine, that Snape had ample time and opportunity to kidnap or kill Harry, but he did neither, and even stopped another Death Eater from harming Harry. He also made sure that others (Flitwick etc) were out of harms way. I wish she'd hurry up and release the next book!

Friday, October 7th 2005 - 03:25:04 PM

Name:

 AFNH

Comments:

 I think the protection could actually come from Voldemort, although unintentionally. In OotP, Harry sees so much of what is going on in Voldemort's mind, but until the night of the attack on Mr Weasley, V was unaware of the connection, then in HBP, Dumbledore says that he thinks V is using Occlumency against Harry, to stop Harry gaining access to his mind. The only time you see it happening the other way around is when V planted the vision of Sirius in the Ministry in Harry's mind. Another scene that struck me, in GoF, was the graveyard duel. At first, when the wands connect, it seems as though V is going to win, but Harry's will is stronger as he pushes, by thought alone, the beads back along the beam of light from the wands. It is V's wand which is defeated. Maybe Harry will be the only one who can destroy the Horcruxes safely.

Friday, October 7th 2005 - 03:20:51 PM

Name:

 Sabine

Location:

 GA

Comments:

 Just some rambling: I just came up with more support for the theory that Snape is on the good side. If you think about all the hoops Crouch Jr. jumped through in GoF to bring Harry to Voldemort, makes you wonder why Snape didn't just grab Harry at the end of HBP and bring him to Voldie. It was just him and Harry in the end, but Snape didn't even stupefy Harry or anything.

As I said, just some ramblings on my part. :-)

Thursday, October 6th 2005 - 09:04:53 PM

Name:

 martha

Comments:

 AFNH - Oh, I agree about Harry having some kind of protection. Don't think he could have gotten this far without it, in spite of everyones best efforts. ;)

Thursday, October 6th 2005 - 06:21:22 AM

Name:

 http://www.bezoard.com/

Homepage URL:

 http://www.bezoard.com/

Comments:

 Next "Harry Potter" on June 21 The manuscript of the seventh volume, very awaited, of the adventures of Harry Potter finally arrived in its English editor, Bloomsbury. "Harry Potter &..." on June will leave 21, simultaneously to Great Britain, in the United States, in Canada and in Australia, indicated Bloomsbury in an official statement, Wednesday January 15. It will appear a little after in France, time to be translated. "We are very happy to announce the date of publication", specified Nigel Newton, general manager of Bloomsbury, and Barbara Marcus, president of the American publisher Scholastic. "Harry Potter and... are absolutely superb and it will charm all the fans of J.K. Rowling", specified the two editors, qualifying the volume seven of "brillantissime", "fascinating" and of "true". Will come time when this article will be published. Will come time when the Seventh will appear. Will come time when all will have been included/understood; absorbed and recraché; apprehended and ruminated: read and assimilated and will come then time when these sad flower "BUCOLIQUES EPITAPHS". It is duties from which one cannot withdraw oneself, it is duties that one must achieve. Although that is for us a tear, we cannot or rather let us not please make differently. We worked too a long time, us invested ourselves too much in this project to see it decaying of itself without being able to offer an end worthy of him to him. We prefer to finish some quickly and well, in beauty rather than with long and slow anguish which would break us the c?ur. All that starts at an end, all that starts will at the end of one day, that that is desired or not, which that is too early or too late, that that is precipitated or delayed, in all the cases, it is necessary to disappear, leave its place with the others, another thing. Héraclite, an antique philosophizes Greek, métaphoriquement compared the flow of time with a river. For him, never one bathes twice in the same river, it does not have there nothing permanent except the change. This famous maxim puts forward a sad concept: finitude. Same manner that we are never identical to two different moments, the work of JK.Rowling will be the same one never again. The saga that we like so much is finished, volume 7, ultimate the opus is appeared and was translated. We know finally the Truth, we know holding them and the outcomes that Jo' put such an amount of time to build. We know all and let us not have anything any more to learn and discover. Our theories do not hold any more the road: which is the interest to theorize on a known exit; our news does not have any more interest which is interested truly in the cinematographic career of Ralf Fiennes; aren't the updates on the site of Jo' truly any more of a great interest, which now worries to celebrate the birthday of a wizard lambda when one knows the truth? Yes, definitely we know all and nothing any more is to be analyzed. Finished the theories, finished the discussions abracadabrantes on the forums and the feelings to hold the good end without would be only to entrapercevoir the other. It is thus with a certain bitterness and a great regret that we somewhat suddenly announce to you the closing of our site Harry Potter for reasons that no one could not be unaware of. It was a formidable human challenge and technique put at the service of a devouring passion. We all thank you; of the reader of the first hour assiduous to the intermittent reader at sporadic frequency, of the reader impassioned with the disillusioned reader, the true fan to curious about passage. This page will be and remain for sentimental reasons on line, the domain name will be preserved and perhaps a remote day or not truly re-used in order to make reappear our history. The files will be for always consultable although not of topicality. However, the whole of the forums and other houses henceforth will be definitively closed. It is thus on these briefs words which we are left by wishing you good continuation. Still thank you with all, this site will make for always party of our c?urs and with can be with the turning of a forum not yet closed. As trustful as one is, as optimistic as one can be, as positive as one supposes oneself, the fact is which in a future nearer than one does not want it to believe well, will arrive time when the saga Harry Potter will end. Will arrive then the time of the second reading without waiting of the next one. And will arrive then perhaps time when we will weary ourselves to read and read again. That will mark, of not to doubt, the knell of the "reign" of this Marvellous Wizard because it has nothing worse there than more not to be read and neglected... When the magic dies out... A few months after the English and American exit of the last opus of the saga imagined by JK. Rowling, ` Harry Potter' falls into the lapse of memory. After presshaving pressed itself to buy it and to read it, the fans will have never again though is to be put under the tooth. A petition was signed by the aficionados of the book of the whole world requiring of Mrs. Rowling to write a eighth of it. The answer although having trailed arrived today, relayed by failing the sites HP of the sphere: " I am extremely touched by your request, but is henceforth with you to imagine the continuation, if tried that you have courage of it, the will, the desire now that you know the truth ". There will not be thus more ` Harry Potter', a news which charms the authors of ` fantaisy' finally hoping to see the readers turning to them, and which saddens some at a point such as one records... (Continuation page 2-3) SIGNAL

Tuesday, October 4th 2005 - 03:58:55 AM

Name:

 Clara

Location:

 Still in front of the PC

Comments:

 AFNH - If Severus comes out with any comment in GoF that can be interpreted... erm... differently, then I´ll put that on a T-shirt as well!
BTW I think Harry is protected from Voldemort, DD tells him at the end of book 1 that "Quirrell, full of hatred, greed and ambition, sharing his soul with Voldemort, could not touch you.... It was agony to touch a person marked by something so good" - which was the love that Lily had for Harry.
It always comes back to the power of love, doesn´t it? (cue Frankie Goes To Hollywood) Maybe Snape´s mother had to protect her son by using Dark magic against her violent husband.

Sunday, October 2nd 2005 - 07:00:28 PM

Name:

 AFNH

Comments:

 Clara - with Professor Snape, definitely! I also love those ones on the WB site - on the front it says I solomnly swear I am up to now good and on the back Mischief Managed .
martha - it may be luck, that's how Harry seems to have succeeded so far. But I can't help feeling his connection with Voldemort will come into it somewhere, it may protect him.

Sunday, October 2nd 2005 - 06:29:52 PM

Name:

 Clara

Location:

 In front of the PC

Comments:

 I had a T-shirt made with "Fancy a stroll in the moonlight?" on it. I was amazed how many people asked where I got it from.

Sunday, October 2nd 2005 - 06:07:26 PM

Name:

 martha

Comments:

 AFNH - good questions. Look what happened to DD retrieving just two horcruxes - and one a fake! I think Harry is going to need some serious help - or luck - with the next four.

Saturday, October 1st 2005 - 08:26:23 AM

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